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		<title>Microsoft chairman says no room for IBM and Sun</title>
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		<description>Posts in the discussion thread &quot;Microsoft chairman says no room for IBM and Sun&quot; - OpenXML.info is reporting that IBM and Sun were excluded from participation in the discussions in Portugal by Microsoft himself, who was chairing the meeting, and had many people representing them in the room, not countries their puppets.</description>
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				<title>Microsoft chairman says no room for IBM and Sun</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-13967/microsoft-chairman-says-no-room-for-ibm-and-sun#post-34868</link>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Portugal's ISO says no room for IBM &amp; Sun in the room ! ? OpenXML.info is <a href="http://www.openxml.info/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=category&amp;sectionid=5&amp;id=7&amp;Itemid=13">reporting</a> (in Portuguese, but a Groklaw member translates for us) that the person who is head of the ISO technical committee about to vote on Microsoft's Ecma-376 wouldn't let IBM and Sun representatives in, claiming there was no room! This, if true, is ridiculous. And here is a <a href="http://abretesw.blogspot.com/2007/07/sun-microsystems-sem-espao-na.html">source</a> reporting the same thing, also in Portuguese. So in the US, we hear reports of packing the TC. Now, it's weeding out those who are not likely to vote a certain way desired? Is this how standards get "approved"? I don't recall ODF having to play such games. Here is the rough translation:]</p> <p>Portugal, and more concretely, its national organization of certification IPQ is a member "O" (observator) of ISO/IEC for the voting of OOXML (ISO DIS 29500).</p> <p>WARNING: the first meeting of the Technical Commission "Language for document definition" was on Monday 16 of July. The vote was delayed. Representatives of IBM and Sun were not allowed to attend because there "<strong>was no available space in the room</strong>".</p> <blockquote> <p>&gt; <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">-</span>Original Message<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">-</span><br /> &gt; From: G [Sun Microsystems]<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; To: D [Microsoft como presidente da Comissão Técnica]<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; Subject: Comissão técnica - Linguagem de Descrição de Documentos<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; Caro Dr D [Microsoft como presidente da Comissão Técnica]<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; A Sun Microsystems em Portugal vem manifestar o seu interesse<br /> &gt; junto do …, na sua qualidade de Organismo<br /> &gt; de Normalização Sectorial para o domínio das Tecnologias<br /> &gt; de Informação, em estar representada na Comissão Técnica<br /> &gt; "Linguagem de Descrição de Documentos"<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; Cumprimentos,<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; G [Sun Microsystems]<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; Dear G [Sun Microsystems] due of restricted number of members of the CT (Commissao Tecnica) that can attend the scheduled meeting room to host the meeting, we cannot, in this stage, accept your proposal of integration of the CT.<br /> &gt;<br /> &gt; With my best regards,<br /> &gt; D [Microsoft as president of the Technical Commission] -</p> </blockquote> 
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