Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:34:17 +0000

You mean that technical comments are propaganda? I doubt so.

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:38:04 +0000

Well, it's pretty much the same thing.
Except the people from this site aren't motivated by money.

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:34:16 +0000

I guess that if these 30 letters with the same content qualifies as propaganda, the no-ooxml letters to national bodies also are propaganda.

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:05:01 +0000

Fine, but I hope for those Microsoft partners that they will be able to submit technical comments and not stuff like "Oh, we love OOXML and we would like to see it an ISO standard because we have produced millions of documents"; those kind of comments will be thrown out, as they are not technical ones.

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:43:45 +0000

[quote]All these irrelevant people were sending the same MS form letter to the secretariat[/quote]
All these irrelavant people are probalby the people interested in supporting Microsoft because they produce MS Office related software.
Those 170 organisation probalby employ thousands of people and as such are likely to be more a lot relevant than most people voting no on this site who are generally individuals that are just pro-OSS and against the big evil Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:54:07 +0000

Sounds like the same case as with the US JTC1. All these irrelevant people were sending the same MS form letter to the secretariat. No technical merit whatsoever, simply propaganda along the lines of "MSOOXML is an excellent specification and we want it to become a standard". Standards bodies operate in rather peculiar ways, but the 4 I'm familiar with would ignore these form letters and possibly demand only technical comments from voting members if they suspect some entity is trying to stack the votes.

Microsoft recruiting puppets in Australia

Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:08:53 +0000

MSDN Australia, Microsoft's Developer Network, is recruiting puppets to support their broken file format at the National Body Standards Australia.

Here is what they say:

We really need help from you all to make Ecma Office Open XML a standard and we need support from Australia. Would you be able to sign up to the community so that we have the support to get this through. All you need is list a company name, URL and one contact.

Reading further:

2. Send a letter of support to be addressed to the local standards body. A suggested template for that letter of support is attached.

That might be useless without technical comments on the standard, at least that's what the CNI is saying according to Pavel Janik:

The good atmosphere was destroyed by Petr Wallenfels (not his fault though) from ČNI who has shown us several (approx. 30) letters from Microsoft partners and customers. They have all almost the same contents "We would like ČNI to accept this proposal, because …". There was no negative letter. Fortunately this is not how ČNI works. The complete process was transparent and only technical comments were allowed. Looks like all writers were victims of some business politics around OOXML. This was the only sad point in the meeting. It was poor from the person/company who organized this.