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		<title>Italy does not approve OOXML!</title>
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		<description>Posts in the discussion thread &quot;Italy does not approve OOXML!&quot; - Italy, a &quot;P&quot; member of ISO/IEC whose subcommittee in charge of DIS 29500 was invaded by Microsoft partners, finally has got an ABSTENTION and won&#039;t back OOXML as Microsoft looked for.</description>
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				<title>Re: Italy does not approve OOXML!</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Do I understand things correctly when I conclude that several MS partners who were stuffed into the committee must actually have voted "no" or "abstain"? Buying votes and then failing to control them is really a blatant failure at cheating.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Italy does not approve OOXML!</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This is the list of those voting with Megatron on the first item (55/83, 0.662 of the vote):</p> <p>Aivebs, Almaviva, Altitudo, AP Systems, Automazione Ufficio, Axiante, Blue Sof, Brain Force, Brunetti Roberto, Code Architects, Comdata, Comedata, Diamante, Digital PR, DS Group, EDISoftware, Eidos, Eurobrands, Green team, Hewlett Packard, IAMCP, Inaz, Ingest, IT Consult, Lario Engineering, LGV Avvocati, Loader, Managed Designs, Microsys, Megatron, Nuovi Soci, Observing, Overnet Solutions, Personal Computing, Pialorsi Sistemi, Progel, Proxima Service, 4Ward, Reisystem, Reply, Santin e Associati, Solid Quality Learning Italia, STCon, ST Next, STR, Studiofarma, Teorama, Trading Library, TXT e-Solutions, UGISS, VE Comp Software, Vertex, Vevy Europe, Xyz, www. Salato.</p> <p>If I count correctly, <strong>one more vote</strong> and Megatron would have bought Italy. Can someone explain the four different votes?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Italy does not approve OOXML!</title>
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						 <p>It seems that the "Yes with comments" <a href="http://www.noooxml.org/local--files/forum:new-thread/ooxml-it-2.pdf">did not made it</a> for some 0,39% (66,66% - 66,27%).</p> <p>You can try to identify the Microsoft business partners in the <a href="http://www.noooxml.org/local--files/forum:new-thread/ooxml-it-1.pdf">voting participants</a>.</p> 
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				<title>Italy does not approve OOXML!</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>An Italian member of the “<a href="http://www.lafarga.cat/xarxa/en/presentation">International Network of Public Administrations for Free Software</a>” has just communicated to &lt;NO&gt;OOXML that:</p> <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Translation to English:</span><br /> <em>"<strong>Italy also will vote "abstention"</strong>, thanks to the excellent work of [www.softwarelibero.it ASSOLI] and FSFe. Both joined to the Italian standardization body to vote NO together. This NO has been instrumental for the final position [of Italy].</em>"</p> <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Original in Spanish:</span><br /> <em>"Tambié Italia votara con una abstencion, gracias al excelente trabajo de Assoli (www.softwarelibero.it) Y FSFE las quales se asociaron al ente italiano de standares para votar con un NO que se ha revelado fundamental en la decision final."</em></p> <p>Italy has been one of the most disputed votes after the <a href="http://www.piana.eu/cms/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=52&amp;Itemid=1&amp;lang=en">practical hijacking</a> of its national subcommittee in charge of to decide about ISO DIS 29500 (OOXML), by members of the Microsoft partnership local network. The number of members of the committee in charge of to decide the vote of Italy suddenly grew from 5 to 83 after Microsoft introduced a lot of its local partners paying 2.000 EUR per each one to be in it and get voting rights. In total more than 110EUR wasted just in inscriptions of new members… to at the end not to get the final YES that as much they invested in.</p> <p>Textually from the website Piana.eu: "<em>Up and until mid-may the members of the relevant Uninfo committee (JTC1) were five: IBM, Microsoft, CEDEO (Leonardo Chiariglione), the PLIO organization (Openoffice.org in Italy) and HP. Then new members started flocking. At the last count, voters were 83.</em>".</p> <p>What is unfortunate is that without that invasion, the professional vote of Italy would have been a clear NO to ISO DIS 29500.</p> <p>How more irregularities is needed to see to get a clean up of the ISO structures that as easy is to invade by any big company with a deep pocket?</p> <p>Anyway, let's congratulate. One less opportunity for this OOXML crappy specification to get passed at ISO.</p> <p>And, "<strong>so sorry, Microsoft, you need to learn indeed to cheat!</strong>".</p> 
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