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		<title>China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
		<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no</link>
		<description>Posts in the discussion thread &quot;China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)&quot; - The experts and the enterprises of China, representing the interests of a one fifth of the Earth population and one of the biggest economical super-powers, have determined that ISO DIS 29500 should not become ISO 29500 because it severely lacks in converting former Chinese document and because &quot;it will do harm to the country&#039;s overall software industry&quot;. China will be one more vote NO to the interests of Microsoft at ISO/IEC.</description>
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-54894</link>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>plopez</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>40837</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Why you don´t like <a href="http://www.ooxml.es">http://www.ooxml.es</a></p> <p>thkx</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-41256</link>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.xmlmaster.org/murata/xmlblog/xb070731.html">http://www.xmlmaster.org/murata/xmlblog/xb070731.html</a></p> <p>I don't think there will be an official press release from the Japanese SC34, and it may take a while for the minutes to come online.</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-41103</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>rizox</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3581</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Please, provide links to the news.</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-41064</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The Japan TC voted "No with comments" on July 31.</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-40266</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Microsoft OOXML even as international standards was reasonable to resist</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-39927</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>rizox</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3581</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>¡Gracias, "Anonymous"! :o)</p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-39869</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ni Guangnan : Microsoft OOXML even as international standards was reasonable to resist</p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.cnetnews.com.cn/2007/0807/446574.shtml&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.cnetnews.com.cn/2007/0807/446574.shtml&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p>Freescale / Hu Yong only : little choice but to oppose the Microsoft document standards:</p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22714.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22714.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p>Liu Peng Gong Min : Microsoft standards others simply can not be implemented:</p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22718.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22718.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p>If China voted against Microsoft documentation facing Tim Chen to step down</p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22757.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewnews_22757.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-39866</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>There are more news here thanks to google.cn and google translator:</p> <p><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.cn%2Fnews%3Fhl%3Dzh-CN%26ned%3Dccn%26ie%3DUTF-8%26ncl%3D1114667401&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;prev=%2Flanguage_tools">http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.cn%2Fnews%3Fhl%3Dzh-CN%26ned%3Dccn%26ie%3DUTF-8%26ncl%3D1114667401&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;prev=%2Flanguage_tools</a></p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewthread_30765.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://www.lupaworld.com/viewthread_30765.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://news.spn.com.cn/6/63739.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://news.spn.com.cn/6/63739.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2007-08-07/13481661482.shtml&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2007-08-07/13481661482.shtml&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> <p><a href="http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://mnc.people.com.cn/GB/6080179.html&amp;prev=/language_tools">http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;u=http://mnc.people.com.cn/GB/6080179.html&amp;prev=/language_tools</a></p> 
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				<title>China says ciao-ciao! to OOXML (one more &lt;NO&gt;)</title>
				<link>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15827/china-says-ciao-ciao-to-ooxml-one-more-no#post-39852</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>rizox</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3581</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>As reported by <a href="http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/07/31/2826808.htm">many</a> <a href="http://www.bjreview.com.cn/headline/txt/2007-08/08/content_71829.htm">news</a> <a href="http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90778/6233604.html">sites</a> already, China has decided to reject the proposed standard format of Microsoft in ISO. China is a "P", principal, member of ISO, so its vote is an important one. And this is not taking in care what China represents for Asia and the whole world, and the reference that could represent for other countries.</p> <p>It seems that OOXML has found a strong resistance among academics and local software enterprises that see it wrong adapted to the Chinese culture or indeed a competitor to the local economic interests. Facts as that OOXML is not able to represent <a href="http://www.noooxml.org/not-for-orient">URLs in Chinese</a> characters (neither in any other non ANSI character), or facts as the <a href="http://www.noooxml.org/global-relevance">Anglo-Saxon bias</a> of the specification, or the use of only the <a href="http://www.noooxml.org/1900">centuries ago deprecated "Julian" calendar</a> used by the Romans, makes it not suitable for many international markets as the Oriental ones, and specially the proud, old and savvy China.</p> <p>Of course, Microsoft is making strong efforts to avoid that "no", as to launch a quick development of a "BSD"(!) licensed <a href="http://consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070521074914744">translator between OOXML and UOF</a>. UOF is the Chinese proposed standard format for office documents that finally <a href="http://consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070417025728436">could merge with ODF</a>, the only ISO recognized of all existing office document formats (PDF/A and PDF/X apart).</p> <p>What is more interesting is that Microsoft is failing mostly in the big economical countries, getting the YES from some small ones with, usually, not so fair tactics. It <a href="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2159734,00.asp">did in USA</a> already, and now China. Japan and India will follow surely and Canada, UK and Germany were among the countries that asked <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070206145620473">not to reach this DIS</a> fast track stage in the ISO process because the many problems unveiled on the proposed OOXML specification, the extremely (and unnecessarily) complex and big proposal, and the contradiction with many preexisting ISO standards.</p> 
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