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		<title>OpenISO starts its OOXML problem report</title>
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		<description>Posts in the discussion thread &quot;OpenISO starts its OOXML problem report&quot; - The OOXML process was instrumental for many proponents of Open Standards to expand their advocacy for a sound standard process that is well defended against vendor capture. OpenISO asks for your participation to improve OOXML.</description>
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				<title>Re: OpenISO starts their OOXML review</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Alex V</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>59620</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>It's impossible to improve a standard which is invalid by design:<br /> <a href="http://www.codeproject.com/KB/XML/ooxml_is_defective.aspx">A sample of OOXML design problems</a></p> 
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				<title>OpenISO starts their OOXML review</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>podmokle</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3547</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Norbert Bollow, the Swiss leader of the OpenISO project launched an OOXML review project. The <a href="http://openiso.org/OI/CFP-F29500:2007">Call for Participation</a> is here reproduced for your convenience:</p> <blockquote> <p>What is OOXML (ECMA-376)?</p> <p>Via ECMA, Microsoft has submitted documentation for the XML-based file<br /> formats used by the company's "Excel 2007", "PowerPoint 2007" and<br /> "Word 2007" products for "fast track" approval as an "international<br /> standard".</p> <p>Why is this so controversial?</p> <p>There is already an international standard for XML-based file formats<br /> for office documents, known as the "OpenDocument Format" (ODF;<br /> standardized as ISO/IEC 29300). Nobody denies Microsoft's right to<br /> freely decide that the company does not want to support this<br /> international standard in their products, and nobody denies that<br /> computer users have the freedom to choose office software which<br /> supports this standard, such as e.g. OpenOffice, KOffice or Google Docs.<br /> However many people feel that Microsoft's initiative to get their file<br /> formats also recognized as an "international standard" is an abuse of<br /> the system of international standardization and should in fact be seen<br /> as an anti-competitive attack against the company's competitors,<br /> especially against Free Software like OpenOffice. In fact when<br /> Microsoft chose the name "Office Open XML" for their file formats,<br /> they must have been aware that choosing this name must necessarily<br /> create confusion with "OpenOffice", the name of the leading competing<br /> software package which has been using an open XML-based office<br /> documents format since long before Microsoft started pushing "Office<br /> Open XML".</p> <p>What has happened?</p> <p>Microsoft has intensively lobbied the various national member<br /> organizations of ISO/IEC and encouraged a large number of economically<br /> dependent partner companies to acquire voting rights in the concerned<br /> national decision-making committees. Nevertheless, in the<br /> international vote, the required qualified majority for approval of<br /> the OOXML specification as an "international standard" has not been<br /> reached.</p> <p>What happens next?</p> <p>There will be a "Ballot Resolution Meeting" in Geneva on February<br /> 25-29, 2008, with the goal of deciding changes to the OOXML<br /> specification which could make it acceptable in the eyes of the<br /> national ISO/IEC member organizations that have voted against<br /> approval of OOXML as an international standard. If (as can be<br /> expected) some changes are adopted at the "Ballot Resolution Meeting",<br /> the national member bodies will have 30 days time to review the<br /> changes and decide whether to change their vote, e.g. from "APPROVE"<br /> to "DISAPPROVE" or vice versa. The national standardization<br /> organizations can at that stage change their vote for any reason, and<br /> they are not required to provide a justification for changing their<br /> vote.</p> <p>What is OpenISO.org's role?</p> <p>Since it is clear from preliminary discussions that OOXML does not<br /> fulfil OpenISO.org's criteria for an open standard, OpenISO.org will<br /> prepare a "problem report" document explaining the main problems why<br /> from the perspective of OpenISO.org's criteria, OOXML cannot be<br /> accepted as an open standard, and should not be approved as an<br /> "international standard". This "problem report" document should be<br /> ready by mid-February 2008 so that it can help guide the discussions<br /> at the "Ballot Resolution Meeting" to focusing on the most important<br /> questions, and so that after "Ballot Resolution Meeting" the "problem<br /> report" can assist the national standardization organizations in<br /> evaluating whether or not the important issues have been appropriately<br /> resolved.</p> <p>Who can participate in the OpenISO.org Review of OOXML?</p> <p>Everyone is welcome to participate who is able to participate in a<br /> constructive manner in a fact-oriented discussion that is conducted<br /> via email, in the English language. (Unfortunately currently no<br /> resources are available for facilitating participation in other<br /> languages.)</p> <p>Participation by people with disabilities and other accessibility<br /> experts is especially requested, since the evaluation of information<br /> technology standards with regard to their effect of people with<br /> disabilities is of the utmost moral importance!</p> <p>How to participate:</p> <p>Subscribe to the OpenISO.org "discuss" mailing list where the<br /> OpenISO.org Review of OOXML will be conducted:<br /> <a href="http://www.openiso.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://www.openiso.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br /> Please join in and contribute!<br /> Norbert Bollow<br /> Founder of OpenISO.org</p> <p>P.S. Here are some further links:<br /> OOXML specification in HTML format: <a href="http://OpenISO.org/Ecma/376/">http://OpenISO.org/Ecma/376/</a><br /> OpenISO.org Core Guidelines <a href="http://OpenISO.org/OI/A200">http://OpenISO.org/OI/A200</a></p> </blockquote> <p>The website of <a href="http://www.openiso.org">http://www.openiso.org</a> also is beyond preview mode now. I would say: We welcome OpenISO back in the important stages ahead that require all means to stop the further obstruction of the vulnerable ISO process and the adoption of a standard that was backed in the last round without comments by a coalition of:</p> <blockquote> <p>Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte-d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Egypt, Fiji, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Lebanon, Morocco, Kuwait, Nigeria, Pakistan, Panama, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Syria, Tanzania, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan</p> </blockquote> <p>It will be crucial that in the BRM round the OOXML standard is disapproved or that all the comments are resolved.</p> 
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