Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia Posts in the discussion thread "Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia" - It seems that the Australian Standards Body still believes in corruption and money, and they will send Rick Jelliffe, an hardcore Microsoft representative who has been paid to edit the Wikipedia page on OOXML. The corruption train has now reached Australia. When does the train stops? http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-111055 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-111055 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:38:32 +0000 podmokle 3547 Will he represent Australia or be part of the ECMA delegation?

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-110290 Re: In Denmark, Microsoft has 2 out of 4 votes http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-110290 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:56:16 +0000 Luc Bollen 84789 "I guess that means that the Danish votes are a tie." As far as I know, at the BRM each NB has only one vote, cast by the head of delegation. So, the head of delegation controls the votes. What would be interesting to know is who is the head of delegation, and what will be the internal rules used by the delegation to decide their votes.

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109275 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109275 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:49:37 +0000 shuck 83894 He recommended a disapproval only at the last minute when the tide was turning so as not to lose face. This was after traveling around and talking about the wonders of OOXML to governments internationally.

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109274 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109274 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:39:20 +0000 shuck 83894 All in 2008 quotes from Rick Jelliffe,

"Full disclosure: I am due to be helping out Rex’s team [at Ecma] in some way with editorial gruntwork this month."
—
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2008/01/editors_disposition_of_comment.html

"As I have mentioned, one of my jobs this month is for Microsoft, to play Devil’s Advocate with the Ecma responses"
— http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2008/01/odf_alliance_now_loves_me.html

"As I understand it, they [Standards Australia] picked me exactly on the reasons they pick anyone to be the technical half in a delegation: seniority, experience, subject competence, availability, professionality (e.g. trying to be scrupulous in making them aware of possible conflicts of interest.) "
— http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2008/02/significant_open_letter_from_p.html

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109144 Re: In Denmark, Microsoft has 2 out of 4 votes http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109144 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:20:14 +0000 Inzpektor 82395 The Danish delegation for the BRM will consist of:

  • IBM
  • Dansk Standard (the national standards body)
  • Microsoft - Themselves!
  • Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Ciber A/S

So, I guess that means that the Danish votes are a tie. (Ofcourse with the national standards body being the joker here :-) )

Reference:
http://www.ds.dk/3537 (In Danish)

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109091 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109091 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:28:56 +0000 podmokle 3547 Didn't Rick finally recommend a Disapproval?

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109080 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109080 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:06:59 +0000 spauldingsmails 33260 With Rick Jelliffe's total domination of the Australian DIS 29500 meeting in August last year it is amazing that Standards Australia abstained, but it is no surprise that he has reappeared as part of the BRM delegation.

I must say that this Jelliffe is not someone who I want representing my organization's best interests, despite myself being one of the local industry members he claims "welcome[s [DIS 29000] as solving a real problem]" (I not sure what it will solve but OOXML is likely to cause me a few problems).

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109048 Re: Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109048 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:41:30 +0000 podmokle 3547 The rumours are there for a while but only got confirmed today.

The substance of the scandal is not that Rick represents Australia.

The substance of the scandal is that the Australian standards body broke an agreement with the Committee, that is to sent neutral persons from the standards body to the BRM.

Rick Jelliffe apparently worked with "ECMA" on the comments recently.

]]> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947#post-109042 Microsoft's Wikipedia editor goes to the BRM to represent Australia http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia#post-109042 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:08:38 +0000 zoobab 2946 It seems that the Australian Standards Body still believes in corruption and money, and they will send Rick Jelliffe, an hardcore Microsoft representative who has been paid to edit the Wikipedia page on OOXML.

The Australian Standards Body seems to have taken this decision alone.

A nice comment that the Aussies should read:

Since you openly admit to being paid my Microsoft you immediately destroy any credibility as a neutral commentator. End of story.

Rick Jelliffe might be technically competent, but the credibility of the Australian delegation is put in jeopardy.

I would be from Australia (nice country, they have a little bit more sun then in Belgium), I would pick up the phone and call my Member of Parliament.

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