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		<title>Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<title>Re: Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Quoting Microsoft's Doug Mahugh ( he was talking about V1 stuffing accusations ):</p> <p><em>"I contacted a couple of those partners myself, but I just picked up the phone and said "hey, there's this committee that is discussing Open XML but nobody involved has actually implemented it from the spec and the debate is therefore 100% theoretical, so it would be great if somebody like yourself with actual hands-on experience got involved."</em><br /> (<br /> <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/08/30/oh-the-drama-of-it-all.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/08/30/oh-the-drama-of-it-all.aspx</a> )</p> <p>!!!!</p> <p>Microsoft: What standard do you want to fast-track today? (tm)</p> <p>This people ( V1 Microsoft members ) are rushing the standard, don't reviewing it. They don't care in final users, just want to keep doing business selling Microsoft products. It's shameful that ISO is subject of such "standardization by corporations".</p> <p>The Microsoft partners ( they represent more than 70% of the total members ) , have voted an non inexistent text ( ECMA is reorganizing the text as multipart, changing conformance structure, changing XML examples, changing scope ! , applying proposed dispositions, removing redundant normative text, changing again the date system , etc, etc ), and it supposed that fast-tracked standards are pre-reviewed and mature.</p> <p>Add to your list:</p> <p>1. BP -&gt; ECMA TC-45 (OOXML) member</p> <p>2. Microsoft -&gt; the OOXML "perpetrator" ( the father of the beast )</p> <p>3. <a href="http://www.realitymobile.com/">http://www.realitymobile.com/</a> Reality Mobile -&gt; flagship product transmit real-time video and geospatial coordinates WHAT THIS HAVE TO DO WITH OFFICE DOCUMENT STANDARDS ( this "member" approved unconditionally last year without ever contributing any comment, now it seems that have gone from V1 , GOOD WORK !!! thanks for contributing to standardization )</p> <p>4 <a href="http://www.fortifieddatacom.com/">http://www.fortifieddatacom.com/</a> Fortified DataCom: one of flagship products runs XP with MS Office, mentioned in [1] when the company was known as Z5 technologies"</p> <p>[1] <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/07/09/open-xml-solution-demonstration-at-wpc.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/07/09/open-xml-solution-demonstration-at-wpc.aspx</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Mimosa Systems: <a href="http://www.mimosasystems.com/html/news_PR_121807.htm">Awarded Microsoft ISV Star Partner Award</a></p> <p>3Sharp: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/SDK/Solutions/SolutionsDirectory.aspx?sortby=partner_up&amp;page=1&amp;vertical=94fe10280f67405aa52569ed04c006f2">3Sharp is a Microsoft Certified Partner</a></p> <p>Mindjet: <a href="http://mindjetlabs.com/cs/blogs/synergist/archive/tags/Mindjet/default.aspx">is a Microsoft Gold Certified partner</a></p> <p>Xinnovation Inc: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=c9ccf79b153d46c1befaa262224a61e7">certified gold partner</a></p> <p>Revonet: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/SDK/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=ae2b2507901143429f232ccc49cad3dd">Registered Partner</a></p> <p>Advaiya: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=ede0ee7a40cb40bf90a65b2b50256a4c">Registered Partner</a></p> <p>NextPage: <a href="http://www.nextpage.com/news/releases/pr_112105.htm">Partners with Microsoft to Standardize Microsoft Office Format</a></p> <p>Peters &amp; Associates: <a href="http://www.peters.com/partners/microsoft/default.aspx">Peters &amp; Associates is a Microsoft Gold Partner with five competencies in the Microsoft Program</a></p> 
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				<title>Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Arnaud Lehors of IBM is mentioning on his blog the <a href="http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/conflict-of-interest/#comments">conflict of interest</a> on the recent vote in INCITS:</p> <blockquote> <p>In the latest demonstration of <strong>how broken the process is the US V1 technical committee voted on Friday to recommend approval of OOXML in a 17-4 vote, where Microsoft and no fewer than 11 of its business partners voted in favor of the specification</strong>. Am I the only one to see a major conflict of interest at play in this?</p> </blockquote> <p>Here is the <a href="http://v1.incits.org/v1mem.htm">list of the members</a> of the committee:</p> <blockquote> <p>03/07/2008<br /> INCITS V1<br /> Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface</p> <p>3Sharp<br /> Advaiya<br /> Blackbird Technologies Inc<br /> BP Corporation North America Inc<br /> Farance Inc<br /> Fortified DataCom<br /> IBM Corporation<br /> Ligent<br /> Microsoft Corporation<br /> Mimosa Systems Inc<br /> Mindjet Corporation<br /> NextPage<br /> Oracle Corporation<br /> Patrick Durusau Inc<br /> Peters &amp; Associates<br /> Red Hat<br /> Revonet<br /> Sun Microsystems Inc<br /> Text Structure Consulting<br /> United States Dept of Defense / DISA<br /> Xinnovation Inc<br /> Y-12 National Security Complex</p> </blockquote> <p>Question for the readers: which companies are Microsoft Business Partners?</p> 
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