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		<title>Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>You got the order all messed up between the unions and the jews and the commies!</p> <p>Although I agree that digistan is a nothing in the grand scheme of things..</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I believe we need to take this issue to a whole new and superior level. Soros Foundation is one thing. Digistan? A whisper of a cow on the surface of the pond.<br /> Who stands (note the word's root "stan-" ) behind Soros himself?<br /> The Free Masons!<br /> And who stand behind them?<br /> The Jews!<br /> And who stands behind them?<br /> The Communists!<br /> And who stands behind them<br /> The Unions!<br /> And who stands behind them?<br /> The metro trains drivers!<br /> And who stands behind them?<br /> The U.S. Government! (ah, there I smack you down, Dennis Byron-two pence!)<br /> And who stands behind them?<br /> The Aliens!<br /> And who stands behind them?<br /> Well, nobdy does, because at some point, we cannot go beyond the Aliens who live in Saturn, as it is the last sky before God, and as we know God stands right behind Saturn, as the great Ptolemeus demonstrated 2000 years ago.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>And the worst thing of all:</p> <blockquote> <p>Wearing a tinfoil hat to deflect …mind-control radio waves is even more foolish than most people think. According to several (apparent) students from MIT who tested several hat designs, there was "a 30 db amplification at 2.6 Ghz and a 20 db amplification at 1.2 Ghz, regardless of the position of the antenna on the cranium." (<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/tinfoil_hats_as_government_plot/">source</a>)</p> </blockquote> <p>So what to do against <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">The Hague Declaration</a> and their mind control program? Russian scientists (read the Prawda!) found out that the Digistan website emits "<a href="http://www.noooxml.org/donations">sent me all your money</a>" radio waves at 2.6 Ghz but these brave voices were silenced by the government. Note the activities of the Russian government to promote Human Rights in Brussels.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>its true! he IS funny! great giggle..</p> <p>too much exposure to US corporate media probably! commie/islamo/fascist conspiracies in farsi-stan-countries!</p> <p>HO HO HO!</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In Hungarian "-ban" is a suffix and in general means "in" (for ex. "in the newspaper" = "az újság<strong>ban</strong>")</p> <p>BTW: the article is a typical example of stupid american propaganda, where the mere usage of notions like "terrorism", "radical", "left wing", etc. in conjunction with (in our case here) free software activism and fight for open standards, could suggest to the closed minded, blinded folks that there's a connection between them…<br /> It's a recipe: Put the things you want to blame in the title, and put together some phrases in text body (the more untrue and contrary to logic, the better) but <strong>be sure</strong> to mix in "terrorism", "radicals", with a little bit of "communists" and "left wing", etc. so the poor laymen can associate it with the things in the title. It's just that easy…</p> <p>Ha, ha, ha! But after ROTFLMAO, just realize what a sad thing that the media can be bought at this level…</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague Declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>That was great humor. I don't think it was intentional, but I had my best laugh this week over what Dennis wrote. With enemies like him, who needs friends?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In Hungarian, I think "ban" means "place". What about Digiban?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Alpha-lunatic attack on Digistan and the Hague declaration</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Here's the Declaration translated to Romanian:</p> <hr /> <p>Declaraţia de la Haga</p> <p>Adoptată şi proclamată<br /> de către membrii fondatori ai Organizaţiei Standardelor Digitale<br /> la Haga, pe 21 mai 2008.</p> <p>În urmă cu aproape 60 de ani Declaraţia Universală a Drepturilor Omului introducea în legile internaţionale aceste drepturi şi libertăţi:</p> <p>1. Libertatea de a nu fi supus discriminării din partea guvernării sau legii (articolul 2, articolul 7).<br /> 2. Libertatea de circulaţie în interiorul graniţelor fiecărui stat (articolul 13.1).<br /> 3. Dreptul de a participa la guvernare (articolul 21.1).<br /> 4. Dreptul de a avea acces în mod egal la serviciile publice (articolul 21.2).</p> <p>Aceste drepturi şi libertăţi sînt acceptate astăzi de fiecare guvern democratic şi susţinute de constituţia majorităţii statelor;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere că toate ţările tind, chiar dacă în ritmuri diferite şi plecînd de la situaţii diferite, spre o societate în care participarea integrală şi eficientă la guvernare şi la societatea însăşi şi accesul la serviciile publice, educaţie şi oportunităţi depind din ce în ce mai mult de accesul la comunicarea prin mijloace electronice;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere în special că:</p> <ul> <li>Informaţiile care ţin de guvernare, precum şi serviciile şi resursele, sînt distribuite din ce în ce mai des prin medii virtuale, nu fizice;</li> <li>Libertatea de exprimare şi de asociere sînt din ce în ce mai des exercitate online şi nu în persoană;</li> <li>Internetul şi Web-ul oferă o ocazie fără precedent de acces la educaţie şi oportunităţi pentru toţi oamenii, oriunde s-ar afla;</li> </ul> <p>Avînd în vedere că, pe măsură ce realizăm tranziţia la o societate digitală, beneficiile oferite de Internet şi drepturile noastre umane cîştigate cu greu pot fi menţinute numai dacă asigurăm în mod egal accesul uşor disponibil la Internet şi dacă deschiderea Internetului este la rîndul ei menţinută;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere rolul unic pe care standardele digitale libere şi deschise îl pot juca în asigurarea acestui deziderat prin încurajarea concurenţei şi inovaţiei, prin scăderea costurilor şi prin înmulţirea alternativelor;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere că guvernele se află în poziţia unică de a se putea asigura, prin puterea exemplului şi prin metodele lor de achiziţie, că toţi oamenii obţin beneficiile pe care standardele digitale libere şi deschise le pot oferi;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere că aceste beneficii prezintă o importanţă deosebită pentru popoarele dezavantajate din punct de vedere economic, social şi geografic;</p> <p>Avînd în vedere că există un consens în creştere privind atributele unui standard digital liber şi deschis;</p> <p>Facem un apel către toate guvernele pentru ca:</p> <p>1. Să achiziţioneze doar tehnologie informatică care implementează standarde libere şi deschise;<br /> 2. Să ofere servicii de guvernare electronică bazate exclusiv pe standarde libere şi deschise;<br /> 3. Să folosească doar standarde libere şi deschise în propriile activităţi.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h2><span>Mysterioustan</span></h2> <p><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/77337-google-ibm-red-hat-sun-and-the-digistan-connection?source=feed">Dennis Byron made our day as he took notice of the Digistan project</a> and its <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">Hague Declaration</a> for open digital standards. The Digital Standards Organization (short:Digistan) is mostly set up to carry out open standards projects like Domino in cooperation with regional chapters.</p> <blockquote> <p>Unbelievably it calls itself Digistan, apparently to identify with the fascist terrorists based in countries and regions using the Farsi-based suffix stan. … If it wasn’t for the implied association with terrorism it would be funny.</p> </blockquote> <p>So, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language">Farsi</a> is the language of Persia, today called Iran. The suffix "stan" is an ancient Indo-European root word meaning place. There are many words in English that use the 'sta' root, many nations in the world that end with "stan" e.g. Kazakhstan. No educated person associates the suffix "stan" with terrorism or fascism. So, what's next… a nuclear assault on The Hague by enraged legacy bloggers?</p> <h2><span>Human rights case</span></h2> <blockquote> <p>Another anti-Microsoft (MSFT) front group has emerged in favor of free and open standards, hyping what it calls the Hague Declaration and making some absurd connection to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">Read it yourself and please sign</a>. You may also want to contribute a translation, for instance to Farsi.</p> <h2><span>Digistan alleged sponsors that 'waste your money'</span></h2> <blockquote> <p>The vast <strong>left-wing conspiracy</strong> of George Soros works around the edges of their mostly web-site-only organizations.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Digistan was launched thanks to a grant from the Information Program of Open Society Institute (the George Soros connection) and matching grants from OpenForum Europe and the European Software Market Association. The latter does not list its sponsors but the former <strong>is the front group behind other front groups</strong> like NOOOXML and Document Freedom Day (that’s right it’s all the same bizarre cast of characters back again to <strong>waste your money</strong>).</p> </blockquote> 
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