向微軟說不！——反對 Microsoft Office文件格式成為ISO標準

本人基於下列理由，請求 ISO 的國家成員對 ISO DIS 29500（Office OpenXML 或 OOXML 格式）投以「反對」的一票：

  1. 現時已有一個稱為 Open Document Format (ODF) 之 ISO26300 文件格式標準。設立雙重標準會令業界、政府及各國公民增添運作成本、疑慮及困惑；
  2. 現時並無證明已有可執行 OOXML 格式的軟體︰Microsoft Office 2007 只能儲存特別版本的 OOXML 格式，而這種特別格式並不符合原有的OOXML 規格；
  3. OOXML 之規格文件中欠缺了重要的資訊，例如如何實作標準中的 autoSpaceLikeWord95 或 useWord97LineBreakRules；
  4. 動議標準提出的範例之中，竟有超過百分之十並非有效的 XML；
  5. 該標準並沒有保證任何人均可以在不用支付微軟的專利特許費用，及免被微軟作專利侵權索償下，編寫一個完全或部分實作 OOXML 的軟體；
  6. 動議中的標準，正正與其他ISO標準有相互衝突的地方，如ISO8601（表示日期及時間之格式），ISO 639（為語言訂定的語言代碼）或 ISO/IEC 10118-3（加密雜湊函數）；
  7. 該標準在試算表（Spredsheet）檔案格式中有一個嚴重錯誤，令軟體無法輸入任何1900年之前的日期。同樣的錯誤除了影響OOXML 規格，並同時影響以下的軟體的版本：包括 Microsoft Excel 2000、XP、2003、2007；
  8. 該項動議中的標準只由微軟單方面設立，並沒有諮商所有與文件格式標準有關的利益團體（包括生產商、賣家、買家、使用者及管理者）之經驗及專業意見。
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  • ergün işeri, Turkey, 1283423353|%O ago
  • Fatih ÖZTÜRK, Turkey, 1283413881|%O ago
  • Mehmet Sutcuoglu, Turkey, 1283266583|%O ago
    Comments: <NO> to Microsoft's OOXML
  • Osman Titiz, Turkey, 1283075909|%O ago
  • Tarta Vasile-Florin, Romania, 1283040990|%O ago
    Comments: NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard
  • Bruno Tachelet, Belgium, 1282993102|%O ago
  • Yiğitcan Hamamcı, Turkey, 1282987482|%O ago
  • Ömer Önder ÜNVER, Turkey, 1282986099|%O ago
    Comments: I say NO to ooxml
  • Recep AKSÖZ, Turkey, 1282948987|%O ago
    Comments: Open Source will win.
  • turgay doğru, Turkey, 1282909589|%O ago
    Comments: Live free
  • sezen kodalbas, Turkey, 1282903319|%O ago
    Comments: microsoft doesnt deserve this
  • Rames Aliyev, Turkey, 1282894840|%O ago
    Comments: i hate microsoft anyway
  • Burak Atay, Turkey, 1282830314|%O ago
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  • Che Guevara, Argentina, 1282773909|%O ago
    Comments: Aprendimos a quererte
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    Aqui se queda la clara
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  • emre cem eleviş, Turkey, 1282753618|%O ago
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  • İrem Göreke, Turkey, 1282744264|%O ago
  • Erhan Coşkun, Turkey, 1282741242|%O ago
    Comments: open office e evet
  • serbulent yildirim, Turkey, 1282641669|%O ago
    Comments: Please, set information free!
  • Sabır Kılınç, Turkey, 1282618920|%O ago
    Comments: ...
  • Mehmet Sinan Ali, Turkey, 1282563738|%O ago
  • Mustafa Gulcan, Turkey, 1282473761|%O ago
  • Man Man, China, 1282452020|%O ago
    Comments: Office Open XML is a very good file format.I agree to adopt it as an international standard.I disagree this project!
  • lilitu lilitu, Turkey, 1282422748|%O ago
    Comments: bayılıyorum bu kitabaaaa
  • Nicolas Balardini, Uruguay, 1282356910|%O ago
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  • şener ercan, Turkey, 1282331132|%O ago
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  • Mehmet Siyok, Turkey, 1282309597|%O ago
  • Ali Celiksu, Turkey, 1282300798|%O ago
    Comments: tekelleşmeye hayır
  • Aykut Argonul, Turkey, 1282274449|%O ago
  • Bahadır Efe, Turkey, 1282236935|%O ago
  • ÖZGÜN TAŞKESEN, Turkey, 1282235779|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft'un office yazılımlarının tekelleşmesine HAYIR
  • Caner Cuhac, Finland, 1282226926|%O ago
    Comments: no no no
  • ayberk enez, Turkey, 1282166150|%O ago
    Comments: no no no
  • ibrahim FINDIKLI, Turkey, 1282125149|%O ago
  • Turhan Uzman, Turkey, 1282120799|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft ve ürünlerinin TEKEL olmasına Hayır... Bunların ISO standardı olarak belirlenmesi ise onarılması çok zor bir hata olacaktır.Çünkü bu bir yerde kullanıcıların, kendilerini her fırsatta sömürmeye çalışan bir tarafa ESİR olarak verilmesiyle eş değerdedir.
    HAYIR-HAYIR-HAYIR..N0-NO-NO
  • tahir kahya, Turkey, 1281962740|%O ago
    Comments: slm
  • İbrahim AKINCI, Turkey, 1281895328|%O ago
  • Pedro Couto, Portugal, 1281813163|%O ago
  • bengü akyıldız, Turkey, 1281736065|%O ago
  • Mehmet AK, Turkey, 1281728445|%O ago
    Comments: Yazılım Dünyasını tekeline almak isteyen şirketlerin artık durdurulması gerekiyor.
  • Mikhail Vodolazov, Russian Federation, 1281699967|%O ago
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  • Alper Tarık, Turkey, 1281607964|%O ago
    Comments: no opensource no science
  • R.T. Sun, Taiwan, 1281580591|%O ago
  • Orhan Konak, Turkey, 1281577629|%O ago
  • Martynas Januskauskas, Lithuania, 1281564291|%O ago
    Comments: NO
  • Alexander Ganzhurov, Belarus, 1281546875|%O ago
    Comments: Say NO to Microsoft! Say NO to OOXML!
  • Javier Salazar, Chile, 1281454026|%O ago
  • Andrew Fedorov, Russian Federation, 1281437039|%O ago
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    Comments: hayırrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • Arif Aydogmus, Turkey, 1281040839|%O ago
    Comments: How can i help you beside this (filling form)?
  • Guirec Halflants, Belgium, 1281009152|%O ago
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  • ercan gumus, Turkey, 1280996858|%O ago
    Comments: NO OOXML
  • Fermin Alcaraz, Spain, 1280958346|%O ago
  • Waclaw Schiller, Poland, 1280947100|%O ago
    Comments: No to closed formats. Even more no to formats pretending to be open.
  • ŞEVKET ARDA TAVAS, Turkey, 1280918181|%O ago
  • carl ke, Taiwan, 1280906746|%O ago
    Comments: No ooxml
  • Nizamettin Oğuz, Turkey, 1280847430|%O ago
  • Olivier DEVAUX, France, Metropolitan, 1280836070|%O ago
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  • hidetoshi honda, Japan, 1280723830|%O ago
    Comments: no ooxml
  • Jacob Dalton, Korea, Republic of, 1280676162|%O ago
    Comments: Real open standards.
  • erhan yıldız, Turkey, 1280588122|%O ago
  • Ridvan Akbasoglu, Turkey, 1280582156|%O ago
    Comments: No Monopoly REQUIRED!
  • Nergis Cevikel, Turkey, 1280563059|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft'un tekeline son verilmeli.
  • gokalp demir, Turkey, 1280522328|%O ago
    Comments: no monopoly
  • Farzin Jam, Turkey, 1280482712|%O ago
    Comments: No to monopoly
  • Nejla Karabulut, Turkey, 1280437479|%O ago
    Comments: No OOXML
  • Bekir Kangal, Turkey, 1280421734|%O ago
  • Mehmet Cakmak, Turkey, 1280331639|%O ago
    Comments: no ooxml
  • alptekin aktaş, Turkey, 1280236552|%O ago
    Comments: Aşağıdaki nedenlerden ötürü ulusal ISO üyelerinden Microsoft Office OpenXML (OOXML) spesifikasyonunun ISO stadartı haline getirilme oylamasında “HAYIR” oyu vermesini istiyorum.
  • Gar Ivanowitz, United States, 1280033972|%O ago
    Comments: <Truth /> in all matters! <$ /> m$!
  • hakan serhat, Turkey, 1280008228|%O ago
    Comments: no tekel
  • Ali Soy, Turkey, 1280001313|%O ago
  • Fergün Urgancioglu, Turkey, 1279969147|%O ago
  • ertan uzun, Turkey, 1279968386|%O ago
    Comments: NO OOXML !!!
  • samet küçükçiftçi, Turkey, 1279960513|%O ago
    Comments: no ooxml
  • Muhittin Aykut Duru, Turkey, 1279930599|%O ago
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  • Musa Dur, Turkey, 1279889053|%O ago
    Comments: Tekele hayır
  • Harun Uslu, Turkey, 1279887899|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft'un piyasada tekel olmasına karşıyım!
  • Mustafa Koc, Turkey, 1279875968|%O ago
  • Arnaud Jasselette, Australia, 1279857940|%O ago
  • H.Kemal ALKAN, Turkey, 1279825821|%O ago
    Comments: İntel ve Microsoft un tekeline son verilme zamanı çokdan geldi de geçiyor.
  • Hüdai Polat, Turkey, 1279810554|%O ago
  • Marco Nero, Turkey, 1279723338|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft tekeline hayır!
  • umut surmeli, Turkey, 1279634017|%O ago
    Comments: no OOXML
  • Hasan Görmüş, Turkey, 1279625516|%O ago
    Comments: I say <NO> to OOXML
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    Comments: NO OOXML
  • CAN Murat, Turkey, 1279566775|%O ago
  • Marius Voila, Romania, 1279519608|%O ago
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  • sedat seyrek, Turkey, 1279501873|%O ago
    Comments: no pricec
  • Beyti Ozgur, United Kingdom, 1279499216|%O ago
    Comments: why should we pay and more for microsoft !!
    as long as we support free open office we are free .
  • mustafa kocaman, Turkey, 1279493942|%O ago
    Comments: Open office iso icin daha uygun cunku gelistiricileri cok daha fazla ayrıca tiraci bir kaygısı yok
  • Yakup Biber, Turkey, 1279449572|%O ago
  • Lars Eichhorn, Germany, 1279446783|%O ago
  • Murat Eker, Turkey, 1279444850|%O ago
    Comments: Tekele hayır.
  • AZiZ CIZMECI, Turkey, 1279410831|%O ago
  • daufresne françoise, France, 1279400118|%O ago
  • carla rojas, Cuba, 1279334552|%O ago
  • Mehmet Ali Konakci, Turkey, 1279287914|%O ago
  • Belmezioud Fatima, Belgium, 1279285506|%O ago
    Comments: Pour un monde responsable et libre
  • Kai Dr. Oesterreich, Germany, 1279174312|%O ago
  • Anton Pyrogovskyi, Ukraine, 1279142255|%O ago
    Comments: Make Microsoft admit that proprietary specifications are crap!
  • Yavuz Kavus, Turkey, 1279140203|%O ago
    Comments: we want open source software, and we want that opensource from opensource supporters.
  • Zühtü Aksoy, Turkey, 1279132927|%O ago
  • bahadir saglamyurek, Turkey, 1279120693|%O ago
  • Arif Tarık Nayci, Turkey, 1279102623|%O ago
    Comments: Özgür yazılım, makul ücretler.
  • Frederico Mol, Brazil, 1279021993|%O ago
    Comments: Open Software Rules!! No more software dictators.
  • Ömer Molla, Turkey, 1278956264|%O ago
    Comments: Tek uluslar arası standart ve uyumluluk. Microsoft herşeyini marka yapmak istiyor.
  • YUSUF KALSEN, Turkey, 1278956205|%O ago
    Comments: No
  • Çetin GÜLTEKİN, Turkey, 1278940963|%O ago
    Comments: FREE SOFTWARE FOR FREE LIFE AND FREEDOM.
  • Sami Kataja, Finland, 1278934675|%O ago
  • mustafa mutlu, Turkey, 1278922118|%O ago
    Comments: hayır
  • Joshua Halstead, United States, 1278872523|%O ago
  • Daniil Kulikov, Russian Federation, 1278836070|%O ago
    Comments: Stop microsoft
  • EROL KÖKSOY, Turkey, 1278762945|%O ago
  • Andor Salai, Serbia, 1278757665|%O ago
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  • alper karesi, Turkey, 1278680286|%O ago
  • Ahmet Özgür Özel, Turkey, 1278600645|%O ago
  • Andrea LOVITO, Italy, 1278590155|%O ago
  • Bahadır Efe, Turkey, 1278523731|%O ago
  • Mehmet Adem Şengül, Turkey, 1278491207|%O ago
  • Guney Ozsan, Turkey, 1278453819|%O ago
  • Jose De Jesus, Mexico, 1278442620|%O ago
  • Cem Özden, Turkey, 1278401616|%O ago
  • Carlo Bottai, Italy, 1278320348|%O ago
  • yusuf ziya colak, Turkey, 1278273307|%O ago
    Comments: no OOXML
  • Ibrahim GOKSU, Turkey, 1278245554|%O ago
    Comments: No monopoly and No partisanship on monopoly...
  • krystian kołodziej, Poland, 1278231272|%O ago
  • Turgut Fenercioglu, Cyprus, 1278144775|%O ago
    Comments: we want global peace, global freedom
  • Ferhat Tosun, Turkey, 1278130854|%O ago
    Comments: Tekele hayır diyorum...
  • hayat uzun, Turkey, 1278090196|%O ago
    Comments: life long
  • Omar Paché, Chile, 1278050646|%O ago
  • Doruk Salancı, Turkey, 1278014701|%O ago
  • ercan basaran, Turkey, 1277966250|%O ago
    Comments: Say "no" to dictatorship of Gates.
  • esref yigit, Turkey, 1277966204|%O ago
  • ERDOĞAN OSKAN, Turkey, 1277898104|%O ago
    Comments: Yazılım Özgürlüktür. Micrasoftun tekeline hayır.
  • lluís mencheta, Spain, 1277894749|%O ago
  • Justin Cox, United States, 1277846736|%O ago
  • Şafak Morgül, Turkey, 1277825525|%O ago
    Comments: Aynen katılıyorum
  • Miguel Pujante Marco, Spain, 1277817163|%O ago
    Comments: ok... he can not
  • barbaros cineviz, Turkey, 1277792421|%O ago
    Comments: Say "no" to dictatorship of Gates.
  • S Seals, United States, 1277734338|%O ago
    Comments: The standard should not be created by a company that charges money for their product that uses their "standard"
  • Deniz ŞENGÜL, Turkey, 1277629114|%O ago
    Comments: yes we will be say "NO"
  • Ersin Yazıcı, Turkey, 1277570315|%O ago
    Comments: Open-Force !!
  • haluk ulku, Turkey, 1277561539|%O ago
    Comments: yes we will be say "NO"
  • Mehmet Mutlu OZDEMIR, Turkey, 1277478676|%O ago
    Comments: Scientific and social development requires freedom. Monopoly of someone on intellectual properties is a huge discrimination of human rights.
  • Roberson Fox, Brazil, 1277428753|%O ago
    Comments: NOOOOO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard!
  • bibopp bibopp, Italy, 1277390224|%O ago
  • Papala Kakala, Czech Republic, 1277377878|%O ago
    Comments: M$ is shitty company!
  • ÜMİT DEMİR, Turkey, 1277282329|%O ago
    Comments: Microsoft un bu office programları arasındaki tekelciliğinden sıkıldım.ücret mümkünse hiç olmamalı yada çok ama çok makul olmalı.open office i destekliyorum.
  • özcan hasanoğlu, Turkey, 1277241103|%O ago
  • Ozan Özdemir, Turkey, 1277237626|%O ago
  • nejat karaca, Turkey, 1277191728|%O ago
    Comments: açık yazılıma sonsuz ve gözü kapalı destek veriyorum
  • Yossi Yhezkhel, Israel, 1277140352|%O ago
  • Giulio Gennaro, Italy, 1277125216|%O ago
  • Nagihan SAHIN, Turkey, 1277045050|%O ago
  • Frank Barrera, Venezuela, 1277043298|%O ago
    Comments: No OOXML, No monopoly
  • Levent Aras, Turkey, 1277025367|%O ago
    Comments: I agree to the problems mentioned above.
  • İsmail Oral CÖN, Turkey, 1276989469|%O ago
  • Erdem Öztürk, Turkey, 1276880503|%O ago
  • Yusuf Baran, Turkey, 1276818721|%O ago
    Comments: No OOXML
  • Nastua Nastenko, Ukraine, 1276810255|%O ago
  • Jean VEDERE, France, 1276804456|%O ago
  • emre bilgin, Turkey, 1276802897|%O ago
  • eMan Amini, Iran, 1276802716|%O ago
  • yüksel altuğ, Turkey, 1276791540|%O ago
    Comments: no need for a standard, if we have already one.
  • Jochen Herrmann, Mauritius, 1276773885|%O ago
    Comments: We don't need a 2.standard, 1 functional one is enough !
  • ordonneau Gilbert, France, 1276742872|%O ago
    Comments: vivre libre ou mourir....
  • Halil Baris Cakar, Turkey, 1276717955|%O ago
  • Sjoerd van der Linden, Netherlands, 1276701835|%O ago
  • Daniel Martinez, Paraguay, 1276698273|%O ago
  • favrycio tello, Ecuador, 1276695810|%O ago
    Comments: :(
  • Andreas B. Eisele, Germany, 1276694860|%O ago
  • Marcin Szychowski, Poland, 1276600308|%O ago
  • cihan delibaş, Turkey, 1276590046|%O ago
    Comments: ücretsiz olmayan bir şey standartda olamaz
  • Daniel Malicki, Poland, 1276552210|%O ago
  • kamil kayacan, Turkey, 1276409120|%O ago
  • Mustafa Boztoprakli, Turkey, 1276387270|%O ago
  • Berk Oneren, Turkey, 1276385131|%O ago
  • Mehmet Nadi ONEREN, Turkey, 1276383269|%O ago
  • Kutlu Dane, Turkey, 1276338944|%O ago
  • ali cekic, Turkey, 1276280857|%O ago
  • Gabriel Molina, Mexico, 1276276115|%O ago
    Comments: Freedom for people! Say no abusers! Say no Microsoft! Say no OOXML!
  • Cem Aktaş, Turkey, 1276248531|%O ago
    Comments: Open for free
  • EMRE B BINICI, Turkey, 1276244824|%O ago
  • Piotr Pawelek, Poland, 1276149938|%O ago
  • Josip Šumečki, Croatia, 1276092285|%O ago
  • Burak AKYÜZ, Turkey, 1275987184|%O ago
  • muammer kaya, Turkey, 1275957653|%O ago
  • Ali Seyhun Saral, Turkey, 1275924448|%O ago
    Comments: Equal rights for all
  • Ozgur Cavusoglu, Turkey, 1275917619|%O ago
  • Ali Onur Malkoç, Turkey, 1275902938|%O ago
  • dr prem raj p pushpakaran, India, 1275892535|%O ago
  • Murat Divrik, Turkey, 1275835271|%O ago
    Comments: Ücretsiz çözümler varken ücretli bir çözüm standart haline getirilmemeli.
  • Ali Çimen, Turkey, 1275781457|%O ago
  • Davuthan YAMAN, Turkey, 1275780395|%O ago
    Comments: insanlar ücretli olan bişeyi kullanmaya mecbur edilmemelidir.
  • Hasan Orhan, Turkey, 1275763027|%O ago
    Comments: Standart adı üstün tektir, her keze itap etmelidir
  • Muhammed Kaymaz, Turkey, 1275754195|%O ago
    Comments: Şirketlerin bilinçler üzerindeki yokedici etkisi yokolmalıdır
  • Richard Leslie, United States, 1275586323|%O ago
  • ozlem ozlem, Germany, 1275584795|%O ago
  • Ozan Bekmezci, Turkey, 1275560501|%O ago
  • Naz Ak, Turkey, 1275519298|%O ago
    Comments: Openoffice is the BEST
  • alican taner, Turkey, 1275477725|%O ago
    Comments: tşk. ederim.
  • Oğuz Emre Bal, Turkey, 1275429227|%O ago
  • cem yolcu, Turkey, 1275393001|%O ago
    Comments: ...........
  • Mustafa Tümbek, Turkey, 1275390777|%O ago
  • Alessandro Infurna, Italy, 1275319901|%O ago
  • Attila Németh, Hungary, 1275299187|%O ago
  • Murat Özalp, Turkey, 1275252777|%O ago
  • Huseyin Kacar, Turkey, 1275154143|%O ago
  • Morant Bruno, France, 1275149341|%O ago
    Comments: en accord total avec ce qui est dit ci-dessus
  • Vita Vakulenko, Ukraine, 1275129266|%O ago
  • şükrü kılıç, Turkey, 1275067032|%O ago
  • şerif sönmez, Turkey, 1275052924|%O ago
  • Bülent ÖZBEK, Turkey, 1275041891|%O ago
  • Mehmet Onder, Turkey, 1275038576|%O ago
  • Mehmet Ali YAğlı, Turkey, 1275016144|%O ago
  • melik barış melikoğlu, Turkey, 1274981304|%O ago
    Comments: NO
  • Serhat Metin, Turkey, 1274958397|%O ago
  • A. Erdal Arslan, Turkey, 1274895843|%O ago
    Comments: No OOXML
  • ferhat yılmaz, Turkey, 1274888830|%O ago
  • Sadık AVŞAR, Turkey, 1274799147|%O ago
  • Feyyaz Aysoy, Turkey, 1274791641|%O ago
  • denice trevor, Cyprus, 1274782123|%O ago
  • Taner Uras, Turkey, 1274733423|%O ago
    Comments: I don't agree. . .
  • Ferit Koru, Turkey, 1274712385|%O ago
  • Berkay Yaman, Turkey, 1274696126|%O ago
  • Denis Lepekhin, Russian Federation, 1274696001|%O ago
    Comments: - ы -
  • Gokhan Gesa, Turkey, 1274679751|%O ago
    Comments: no office
  • mustafa force, Turkey, 1274607447|%O ago
    Comments: www.md-t.org
  • Ram Kromberg, Israel, 1274562085|%O ago
    Comments: 9. This specs are unreadable ! Seriously ! They are all gibberish filled with references to missing information ! it's like someone wrote the specs, cut a chapter, and then alphabetised the topics without any regards to context ! is this a joke ?!
  • Hatice Arslan, Turkey, 1274518530|%O ago
  • Matteo Cisilino, Italy, 1274452524|%O ago
    Comments: just say no
  • TINA BERNABEU, France, 1274443001|%O ago
    Comments: STOPPP..!!! à l'impérialisme et au despotisme de Bilou G :-(((
  • jal observateur, Canada, 1274442397|%O ago
    Comments: Alors suis-je hésitant à signer ? Devinez !;-)

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